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Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:09:00 -
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So a guy mocked a crying carebear playing the sympathy card during 'fanfest' aka 'drinkfest - so what?
If the guy was GENUINELY suicidal, there is no way he would be playing Eve. Having been to the brink myself a few years back - and Im not joking, I was standing on the top of the bridge - a guy who is actually on the brink of suicide would not be playing a computer game, this was just a guy playing the sympathy card, fishing for isk or at least to be left alone to mine. In other words, worthy of being mocked. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:12:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap.
The guy wasnt actually suicidal though, he was just playing the sympathy card. Mocking some butthurt carebear is fine, thats all that happened here. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:15:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Steelshine wrote:Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with i don,t think the votes Mittens got alts or real accounts matter much now. He lost face ,but the worst part of it CCP and EVE loose face also If the important game media gets hold of this ,they won,t cover a great fanfest but something else
This is a game that is proud of gankers. Proud of the harsh world that is Eve. This wont really affect them that much - if anything, the subscriber base will increase as the game is brought under the public eye. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:20:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:RougeOperator wrote:They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap. The guy wasnt actually suicidal though, he was just playing the sympathy card. Mocking some butthurt carebear is fine, thats all that happened here. You dont know that. You cant make that claim. They crossed the line that should not be crossed. This is not a game anymore after what they did on that panel.
What if I was mining, got ganked, was mocked in local and went out immediatly and hung myself? Every time a gank happens, this could potentially happen. Are you saying every ganker was an evil jerk who was trying to get people to kill themselves? Of course not. This is yet another example of players mocking a carebear who, as far as they can reasonably tell, is not suicidal. This happens on an hourly basis, if not more often.
Because no one who is genuinely suicidal plays a computer game, and says 'oh, Im depressed, and suicidal'. Not if they are genuinely suicidal. This guy was just playing the sympathy card, and therefore worthy of being mocked.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:35:00 -
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Triskian wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Going by The Wis' blog, he seems to be a fairly stable individual. And a decent photographer. Has a terrible Eve setup, though. From what I've gathered from his blog he's also a despicable human being who divorced his wife because of her numerous disabilities.
This is a good point. IF the rambling speel is correct - and thats a big if - then this so called 'victim' has done far more wrong than what mittens is being accused of. Why isnt there a threadnaught calling for his head?
Because TheWis is not head of GSF probably...
Also, genuinely suicidal people do not advertise their 'bad life story' to people. Ergo this guy was not genuinely suicidal, but was invoking the sympathy card - which is offensive to actually depressed people. Frankly, the more you look into it, TheWis was a truly awful person... |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:40:00 -
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joe hamil wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
They don't get that this is not a joke. They still think this is a troll.
Hell this opens a door for CCP to be sued for liability now in most places.
Wrong again, because by playing EVE you accepted the following, BINDING LEGAL AGREEMENT: "CCP has established Rules of Conduct (discussed below) for players accessing the System and may, but is not obligated to, monitor and take action regarding inappropriate conduct. Nonetheless, it is possible that at any time there may be language or other material accessibl e on or through the System that you may consider inappropriate for children or that may be offensive to some users of any age. You acknowledge that other players may transmit communications or content, or access to content, that you may consider inappropriate or objectionable. CCP does not, as a matter of policy, prescreen the communications or content transmitted by each player and is in no way responsible for the communications and content transmitted by players of the Game. " bolded and underlined for your convenience. but then again wouldnt this part of the rules and guidelines come into effect, whether through private in-Game messaging, during chat, or in chat rooms. CCP representatives may monitor communications made by or received from you. You should not provide private information to any other player in the Game. CCP shall not be responsible for the consequences of any such disclosure by you.
Exactly, CCP are not responsible, so why should they care?
Give it a few days, the forum crusaders will have gotten bored, and no one will care about this whole issue.
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Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:45:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:This is an absolute disaster for CCP and EVE Online. Why would I play a game where players will try and craft my death in real ******* life? This is way beyond a game. I'm not forking money for this kind of abuse. Can I have your stuff? |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:49:00 -
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Xython wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:This is an absolute disaster for CCP and EVE Online. Why would I play a game where players will try and craft my death in real ******* life? This is way beyond a game. I'm not forking money for this kind of abuse. Can I have your stuff? Goddamnit, I called dibs! Indeed you did, I didnt see your post, his stuff is yours. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:52:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I'm suicidal because I say I am. If anyone says anything bad about me they should immediately be banned. I hope you kill yourself and cleanse the gene pool of your suicidal filth. In fact, all you forum alts and trolls, all you lurkers, you should all spam Malcanis until he kills himself, it would be pretty hench.
Right, so when do I go to prison? |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:22:00 -
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Am I the only one who noticed the lack of rage comments about this non issue on the youtube link? Lol. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:24:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Andski wrote:Blinking Duck wrote:FEAR!
I mean seriously, you guys really are shitting bricks! we're not afraid, heh 10,058 angry people can influence outcomes ;p Wonder what the real figure is if you exclude the alts. It doesn't matter. 10,058 paying accounts voted for The Mittani. He got more than twice the number of votes as the second place guy. It's called the Mittani Mandate. Its like how politicians are allowed to screw the public until they bleed - they were voted in on a platform of screwing people anally, you have no right to complain when they ask you to bend over. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:34:00 -
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Keep posting guys, if we have enough posts then CCP are sure to notice and ban him.
Lol. |

Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
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Hey! Guys on the bandwagon! Dont leave me behind! |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:33:00 -
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Does anyone know if the guy with 23 accounts who was botting has been banned yet?
Rules are still rules. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:59:00 -
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MindRanger wrote:Not exactly. Minor sentence, major offense. Josef Djugashvilis wrote:So, mittens could lose his seat on the CSM for a miner offence? No, a miner offense. As Im sure you are all aware, crimes against miners do not count. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:02:00 -
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Quote:The part where he "repeatedly went after the guy" was when he ordered thousands of Goonies to harass him. I have no idea how even a Goon could be shameless enough to ignore the fact telling thousands of your fellow scum to attack someone is harassment.....
Wow, you guys really are shameless.
No idea who wrote this, but they are talking crap. Mittens was ASKED by some dude for the name, having mocked the tears of an anonymous miner - one of several, his presentation was a collection of tears - and said '"IF you want to make this guy kill himself, his name is The Wis" (Mittens then spelt the name out a few times)
Notice how he did not order anyone to harrass this guy at all?
People are just jumping on the bandwagon without knowing what actually went on. Sure, Mittens was a tool, an inibriated tool, but he is not guiltly of cyberbullying or whatever other charge people are labelling him with. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:11:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:The threat of violence still counts legally in most places mate.
This was a very clear Threat.
No it wasnt. Go watch the footage before commenting further. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:14:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Quote:The part where he "repeatedly went after the guy" was when he ordered thousands of Goonies to harass him. I have no idea how even a Goon could be shameless enough to ignore the fact telling thousands of your fellow scum to attack someone is harassment.....
Wow, you guys really are shameless.
No idea who wrote this, but they are talking crap. Mittens was ASKED by some dude for the name, having mocked the tears of an anonymous miner - one of several, his presentation was a collection of tears - and said '"IF you want to make this guy kill himself, his name is The Wis" (Mittens then spelt the name out a few times) Notice how he did not order anyone to harrass this guy at all? People are just jumping on the bandwagon without knowing what actually went on. Sure, Mittens was a tool, an inibriated tool, but he is not guiltly of cyberbullying or whatever other charge people are labelling him with. Yeah he didn't technically "order" anything. All he did was facilitate and encourage thousands of people to try to make someone kill himself. You're grasping at syntax straws, brosef. And all the people extrapolating a few sentances into legal offenses arent grasping at syntax straws? |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:20:00 -
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You know what? Im tired of this bullshit, from both sides. Lets just lock these threads, lock any new ones that pop up, and let the matter die while CCP conduct their investigation. Every arguement had been made by page 20, the last 100 pages is just repeats of those points, and if left alive, this thread will spawn another 100 pages of the same opinions. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:21:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote: In this day and age you have to think carefully before posting anything like this or doing it infront of a camera drunk or not.
The simple fact is, this video will be tied in to google searches of Alex's name forever. If you were a technically savvy employer, would YOU hire this guy after seeing the video? A law firm will never hire him, except maybe out of pity to clean the toilets in the executive bathroom because they knew his dad once. He's retired, you halfwit. I agree. He is now, and probably for good, unless you count flipping burgers. Actually they're pretty exclusive now days.  He has more money saved up from his career than you will ever earn in your entire life, pre tax. |
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Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:26:00 -
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Mistress Lilu wrote:Off with his head. Its one thing to troll in game, but it is another thing to take eve into RL and troll in real life.
Definition for cyber bullying: Web definitions: Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior... By that definition, you are guilty of cyber bullying the mittani.
You should be ashamed of yourself, all of you. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:29:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Quote:The part where he "repeatedly went after the guy" was when he ordered thousands of Goonies to harass him. I have no idea how even a Goon could be shameless enough to ignore the fact telling thousands of your fellow scum to attack someone is harassment.....
Wow, you guys really are shameless.
No idea who wrote this, but they are talking crap. Mittens was ASKED by some dude for the name, having mocked the tears of an anonymous miner - one of several, his presentation was a collection of tears - and said '"IF you want to make this guy kill himself, his name is The Wis" (Mittens then spelt the name out a few times) Notice how he did not order anyone to harrass this guy at all? People are just jumping on the bandwagon without knowing what actually went on. Sure, Mittens was a tool, an inibriated tool, but he is not guiltly of cyberbullying or whatever other charge people are labelling him with. GÇ£Incidentally, if you do want to make that guy kill himself his name isGǪ[details removed]. He has his own corp, find him.GÇ¥This is the part that is mysteriously skipping on the YT vid. then GÇ£ItGÇÖs pretty funny that you have people watching a TV stream who have never been to Fanfest trying to wag their fingers and cluck as if this is Hello Kitty Online. This is EVE, and Fanfest is a drunken, shambolic revel GÇô it always has been, if youGÇÖve been to one.
Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself.GÇ¥http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/bully-pulpit/
If he had actually said something along the lines of "Go spam this guy until he commits suicide, here is his address and real life name, I command you all to harrass this man" then I would agree with you guys completely. But he didnt. He said "IF you do want to make that guy kill himself..." There is a world of difference between telling a room full of people to go harrass someone, and providing the name of a guy to another dude who was asking for the name. Just saying. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:30:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Mistress Lilu wrote:Off with his head. Its one thing to troll in game, but it is another thing to take eve into RL and troll in real life.
Definition for cyber bullying: Web definitions: Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior... By that definition, you are guilty of cyber bullying the mittani. You should be ashamed of yourself, all of you. None of us are being hostile. Asking for a public person to step down from the CSM is not hostile. Some of the posts on here are pretty hostile... maybe not those made by you, but by the 'crucify mittens' crowd. |

Blatant Forum Alt
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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:31:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote: He has more money saved up from his career than you will ever earn in your entire life, pre tax.
Proof or gtfo? Oh wait, you know nothing about my real life or earnings whatsoever, so that would be impossible. Derp. Youre right, I dont know anything about your real life earnings. I know mittens is set for life though, so your repeated burger flipping and future career comments are still incorrect and irrelevant. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:36:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Keep posting guys. This thread is catching the WIS thread with superfluous ease. This thread is embarrassingly slow - lord mittens apology is already a dozen pages longer. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:40:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:Keep posting guys. This thread is catching the WIS thread with superfluous ease. This thread is embarrassingly slow - lord mittens apology is already a dozen pages longer. That is a demonstration of the pulling power of mittens. I'd rather post in a mittens thread than a random NPC alt thread... Agreed.
^ this post has more content than most of the 'burn mittens' bandwagon posts. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:49:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:There are way to many post about this on the first page of the forums.
Why is the player base stinking everything up here? This is something CCP needs to deal with so let them deal with it. And NO, it is not for them to say yes we are doing something about it. If they are leave them to complete and lets see what the result of that is.
The GOONS might not be the most popular group of players around so it comes to reason that you will see these post flying around attacking Mittani like this. I am not a fan either, but i will not stoop so low as the a certain group of players have on these forums. From most of the threads and post it seems majority of people are alts and Carebears. Carebears, as much as they complain about shyte that involves them, here it seems they are also the most vindictive and spitefull group of players I have ever seen, good job.
You guys are saying Mittani are doing the game alot of damage after his comments? Your actions right now is doing alot more damage than Mittani has in not allowing CCP to deal with it on their own. Stop your self imposed entitlement and let those that have the power to deal with it ,deal with it.
Amen to that. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:51:00 -
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Dismas Ofstedal wrote:Norian Lonark wrote:Having watched the video (didn't watch it at the time but with all these comments decided to watch it) I personally feel like the comments and impact are being blown out of proportion.
I think most people who have ever experienced depression or known someone who suffers depression know that other peoples comments don't really make any difference, positive or negative that is what makes it so hard for families and friends because they are powerless to help. The individual has to work it out for themselves.
This is a game and if your getting that worked up about it, its not really fair to hold someone else responsible for it. If I lose a ship or blow someone else's ship up playing a game and they get upset about it should I expect to become responsible for the life of that person in RL?
If someone is feeling that bad in RL they need to take responsibility and go and seek professional help for their own well-being, their family and their friends you cant blame people who you have never met playing an internet spaceship game. Finally found a post with something to say. IF, and I repeat, IF Wis is that caught up with depression to the point that he would express suicidal thoughts in public, he should immediately stop playing a heartless, hard knocks game, and seek professional help. If he's just trolling, then he needs to STFU. There are many other people struggling with RL issues that don't whine about it. Amen to this too. Having been in a fairly similar situation to what Wis claims to be going through a few years ago, I am extremely cynical when it comes to his claims of 'depression' and 'suicidal thoughts'. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 22:58:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Xython wrote:You mean the scandal that didn't erupt until the fat ******** pubbies and LEETPVP alts realized that Mittani had, gasp, won again? He didnt do it until the end of fanfest you noob. How are we supposed to react before he sends harassment horde after a guy to kill him. Are you from the future? *sigh*
Have you actually seen the footage from friday, or are you just jumping on the bandwagon with everyone else? |

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Posted - 2012.03.28 08:12:00 -
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Pathetic.
The apology is 40 pages ahead of you guys, come on. |
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Posted - 2012.03.28 16:21:00 -
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Come on guys, you can do better than this. You are STILL 60 pages short of space barbies. Keep posting, that way CCP will have to listen. *rolls eyes* |

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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:28:00 -
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Xython wrote:Nick Bison wrote:Xython wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Or the ones that can meta game better than the goons? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Is really funny as it's not "My CEO" and not "My Chairman" who's head is on the block. No, it's funny that the stupid ******* think that Mittani is in any actual danger. I mean christ, these Internet E-Lawyers actually were "very serious posting" about how Mittani is guilty of Cyberbullying and he could be arrested and put in prison, tut tut, very serious. Morons. We're posting in this thread (and the other one) because watching the clueless fucks run around going "oh god oh god we FINALLY GOT THAT EVIL GOONIE~" is some of the best chat **** we've seen in goddamned ages. Let me spell that out for all the pubbies: We're farming this thread for your outrage. Delicious tears, geddit? Hell, this will probably be it's own slide on Mittani's slideshow next year. Head over to the apology thread, the stream of sweet nectar over there is much more bountiful than this thread. |

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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:43:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Comrade Commizzar wrote:Either The Mittani is banned under the EULA for "harrassment"...
or the EULA is meaningless. Choose CCP. You can't have it both ways. EULA doesn't apply to out of game interactions. So no one has ever been banned for out of game actions? If you give someone money out of game, for in game items, is that not a bannable offense? Try not to display your ignorance before the entire forum, it makes your credibility sufer....  *facepalm* |

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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:47:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:Comrade Commizzar wrote:Either The Mittani is banned under the EULA for "harrassment"...
or the EULA is meaningless. Choose CCP. You can't have it both ways. EULA doesn't apply to out of game interactions. So no one has ever been banned for out of game actions? If you give someone money out of game, for in game items, is that not a bannable offense? Try not to display your ignorance before the entire forum, it makes your credibility sufer....  *facepalm* Sorry, Your a a NPC Alt and should have no Voice  Please try again NPC corp is better than no corp. You're a non person, I am just a 2nd class citizen. |

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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:55:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
NPC corp is better than no corp. You're a non person, I am just a 2nd class citizen.
"2nd Class Citizen how dare you     I am a Pub-Lord and Proud of it  Also you are a NPC Alt and as such your opinion does not matter, I apologise for an inconvenience this may of caused. No no, Im a 2nd class citizen, you are 3rd class as you have no corp. I clean the toilets, you sleep in the toilets. My opinion barely counts, you dont exist. You savy? |
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